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Welcome back to today's episode of Unapologetic Living. I'm Elizabeth Elliott, and I am your hostess. And today is a different kind of show because I have brought my other half, Joe Bosmer, on. Welcome, Joe.
SPEAKER_01:Hello. Thanks for having
SPEAKER_00:me. I'm excited to have him with me. Together, we just completed a 100-hour bone broth fast. Yeah. Are you going to say
SPEAKER_01:something? Yeah, it was great.
SPEAKER_00:And, uh, we decided to do that, uh, partly, well, I decided to do it and I begged him to join me on, um, my endeavor because I had gotten a Pizza and ice cream, cookies, chocolate chips. And I really needed a gut reset. So that was my main reason for going on 100-hour bone broth fast. So why did you join me?
SPEAKER_01:Well, for all of those same reasons, but I also wanted to lose a few pounds. And there's no easier way to lose some weight than... not eat, especially for four and a half days.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I lost about seven pounds, I think over the 100 hours. And then you lost
SPEAKER_01:10 pounds, which this is the most I've lost on a fast before we've done like an 84 hour and a 72, 72 hour. And I lost a few pounds on those. Maybe like three or four. But I also didn't exercise as much as I did on this one. I did several bike rides. One of them was a pretty hard effort and a couple of trips to the weight room as well. So I definitely think that helped in some of the weight loss. big calorie burns with no calorie intake, you're going to have to replace that energy that you used up in your muscles somehow. And you do that by burning fat. Now, you are going to lose a little bit of muscle, especially if you do hard efforts with cardio. try to stay away from that and stay in like zone one zone two and tap into those fat reserves rather than using muscle glycogen so i kind of deviated from that one day and did kind of some hard efforts and i could tell at the end of that i was really hungry and that was that the end of day two which is generally the hardest day uh as far as like hunger cravings anyways so i probably should have planned that out a little bit better um i just ran into a buddy who was on an e-bike and was trying to chase him around the park and you know i was having fun so at the time i wasn't really thinking about it i felt good so uh yeah i just went with it
SPEAKER_00:yeah i was thinking about the weight loss i think Definitely, you wonder when you're getting on that scale and those pounds start to fall off, which I don't really think I noticed too many those first couple of days. I really noticed it the fourth and well, I guess we started on it. We had our last meal on a Sunday and we broke our fast on a Friday. So around Thursday, I really started to notice. I started to see a little movement on the scale and I try not to get too consumed with the number on the scale, because I think that can be misleading and can be misguided.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. And then a couple times, uh, our scale, we step off and then step back on and it would be almost a half a pound different within three seconds. So if you're getting like fixed on that specific number, yeah, that's probably not a good idea, but it is, uh, I think a good idea to have a general sense of how much weight you are losing. If you're losing four or five pounds a day, that's not healthy. I would say if you're not exercising and you're losing two pounds a day, that can be... It can be a little much too. It should be like that one, probably around one pound, maybe a little bit more a day. I mean, a pound of fat is 3,500 calories. And, you know, your average person, their basal metabolic rate is going to be between 17 and 1800 calories. And that is, that's at rest. So no, no activity, no exercise. And then you start throwing that in. We're at work. I'm on my feet. I'm moving around. I'm doing things, moving boxes. I'm going to be burning some calories. And then you throw the exercise in there. You know, I could be burning, you know, easily 3,000 calories in a day. And then there are some hard exercises in there and it could be 3,500 to 4,000. And if you're not eating anything, you would be burning mostly fat. So you can be burning up a pound of fat a day pretty easily.
SPEAKER_00:So our bone broth fast consisted of We had a little bit of black coffee in the mornings. And then the bone broth that I made, which was just some rib bones that we got from, we had in the freezer from the cow that we bought last fall, which is a great way to buy grass fed meat. A little bit more budget friendly than going to say the grocery store when you can have a bunch in your freezer, a little bit of water. There was some like ends of celery, peppercorns, some herbs. You can kind of play with that, a little bit of apple cider vinegar. We didn't really over consume that this time. No.
SPEAKER_01:Last time I was drinking probably four to six cups at least a day. In a couple of days, I had like probably like eight cups. And then this time, the first two days, I had probably like a cup and a half to maybe two cups in the morning and then about the same in the evening. And then day three and four, I only had like a cup and a half in the evening.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was much less bone broth than before. I was almost relying on it for that very first fast.
SPEAKER_01:I had more electrolytes this time, though, and stayed better hydrated, I think. I think I was relying on the bone broth to kind of stay hydrated, whereas this time I drank more water with electrolytes in it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, same. I found it a little bit more... I don't know, when I started to feel the shakes or hungry or needed. I mean, our electrolytes are sweetened with stevia. So you could maybe consider that a cheat, but it definitely.
SPEAKER_01:It's calorie free though.
SPEAKER_00:It is calorie free.
SPEAKER_01:Bone broth does have calories in it. Although it's minimal. This bone broth didn't have a whole lot of fat in it. Normally you see that like layer of fat on the top. And that was pretty minimal. So I think the calories were pretty low in this. Generally, bone broth is between 30 and 50 calories per cup.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So
SPEAKER_01:I think this one was probably on that lower end towards the 30.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And sometimes, depending on the quality, you might see 9 to 15 grams of protein.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It depends.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Per cup?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't know it was that much.
SPEAKER_00:It just depends. I think part of that's how much... I don't know. Because...
SPEAKER_01:Well, one gram of protein is, what, seven calories?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Is that all? It's like sugar.
SPEAKER_01:I can't remember. Nine is fat, right? The most.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Four is... I forget. But we'll figure it
SPEAKER_02:out.
SPEAKER_00:We should know. So how did people respond
SPEAKER_01:when
SPEAKER_00:you told them you were fasting? I didn't
SPEAKER_01:tell anyone really until after probably day two. But most people just ask, why? Why are you doing this? Because it doesn't make sense to most people. They don't understand the benefits of fasting. And you do it for the benefits. And the benefits are to heal your gut. There's a lot of healing that's going on there.
SPEAKER_00:When you give that body, you know, time to take a break from digesting food.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
UNKNOWN:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And your gut isn't just your stomach. It's your whole digestive track. So that starts in your mouth and goes down into your stomach and through all your intestines and your bowels and then out the other end, right? Well, I mean, I could tell my mouth was like cleaner. Oh,
SPEAKER_00:yeah. You know, the feeling of socks on your teeth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's gone.
SPEAKER_00:Gone. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. If you have like some food and you feel that stuff in your mouth, like a couple hours, if you don't brush directly after eating, you know, you get that little bit of film, especially if you eat sugar. Then, you know, that stuff's gone. You don't, we both tongue scrape in the morning that the tongue scraping is, was completely different it was more viscous and like clear it wasn't that like white thick stuff on there um and then also you start to uh eat up and get rid of any damaged or bad cells in your body uh So you're preventing disease. So if you have, it reduces inflammation as well. And we all know inflammation is the cause of all disease. So you're reducing those factors. The weight loss, you know, I told somebody at work, I was, doing it to lose some weight. He was like, I wish I was as heavy as you are. He is heavier than me. He's being a little facetious there. There are multiple benefits to fasting. I think it's a good idea to do at least once or twice a year to have a reset and Just get away from all the stuff.
SPEAKER_00:I know that one of the things that we noticed at dinnertime when it wasn't dinnertime was how much more time we had to do numerous other things. We didn't spend any time in the kitchen in the morning, whether they're making the coffee, no meal prep, no kitchen cleanup, no... you know, cooking. So that freed up a lot of our time. And you also start to notice
SPEAKER_01:you save money,
SPEAKER_00:save money. We didn't spend any money on food and we barely ran the dishwasher. We did use every mug and almost every glass. But, you know, we found ourselves kind of noticing that, I don't know, maybe we eat sometimes when we aren't necessarily hungry, when you really know the feelings of true hunger. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You can.
SPEAKER_01:Anybody that's telling you that they're, they haven't eaten since breakfast and it's six o'clock at night that they're hungry. They're not really hungry. They're just, they're, they're little gut bugs and, are hungry.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Or, you know, maybe something has triggered that and it could be just the time of day. Like I did go to the grocery on Thursday to buy a grass bed, um, ribeye and New York strip and just driving home at that time of day with my grocery bags and I was anticipating dinner and I... Oh,
SPEAKER_01:you're probably salivating.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was already thinking about it. And I got home only, you know, like I pulled in the front of the house and I was like, whoa, I don't get to eat this tonight. I got to wait, you know, 10 more hours.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But the hunger does kind of come and go in waves, right? You might be hungry, but you have it. It's kind of mental, you know, it's not that... Like when you're eating all the time, your hunger usually comes from your gut, right? It starts in your gut and your gut's telling your brain, hey, we need to eat. But when you haven't eaten for a long period of time, the hunger, I think, is coming from the opposite way. It's your brain is like,
SPEAKER_02:telling
SPEAKER_01:you hey you need because you feel a little lightheaded or maybe a little dizzy and things aren't like super clear and then you're like I'm hungry and then that kind of goes away and then everything is super clear and
SPEAKER_00:I know Wednesday, I woke up feeling really bad. I think it was Wednesday morning or Tuesday morning that I felt really weak. I did not feel well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I moved through it. That was probably the worst I felt.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I had some moments like that as well. But yeah, you go through.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. When did you find that you... when you were going through them, any thoughts or redirect, or did you have to make a conscious effort? I definitely think working and staying busy.
SPEAKER_01:Staying busy always helps. Yeah. Trying to get your mind off of thinking about food. Yeah. It's those times when you come home and you're off work and then you would usually like, I come home and have a little snack right after work before I get on the bike. And yeah, That's when I was like, oh, I'm hungry. But was I really hungry? Or was it just, I was in the habit of having food at that time and my brain was just saying, oh, this is the time you have food. You're hungry. So you gave us a list of things to think about during our fast. You remember any of those? Like, oh, It asks, like, what emotions are you feeling? Where do you go when you're... I
SPEAKER_00:know, there was quite the list. We'll have to find that list and include it in the show notes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was a good list. Lots of good things to reflect
SPEAKER_00:on. Yeah, are you numbing, distracting? Like, what's taking place? Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:why do you eat? Are you numbing? Are you distracting yourself?
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think you noticed as much physical detox? So what was it in 2022? We did a two weeks straight of only meat, black coffee and water.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And we had what I would call a very, yeah, dump and very intense flu.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I felt a little bit of that a couple of days, but it kind of came and went to like, I thought a couple of times I was like, maybe feeling like feverish or like a couple of times I thought I had like a little bit of a sore throat coming on. And then it would literally go away in 30 minutes. And
SPEAKER_00:then that last night you were talking about those muscle spasms or your muscles acting goofy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I had a little bit of that the last day. I think that was a culmination of maybe doing a little bit of too much exercise during, because if you do start getting into those higher heart rate zones, you will start using a muscle glycogen. And to replace that, you will turn your own muscle into fuel instead of burning fat. And Yeah, that's not what you really want to be doing because the goal is to be burning fat and losing more fat than muscle.
SPEAKER_00:You agree that in moments, even without food, you felt pretty clear, energetic, and good. I mean, I did.
SPEAKER_01:100%.
SPEAKER_00:And then I might have a second of like, whoa.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, compared to moments that I felt... the day before we started when we were eating cookies and ice cream, you can feel like your head is in a cloud after you eat a bunch of garbage like that. Not clear, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we did kind of go out with a bang.
SPEAKER_02:My
SPEAKER_00:son had gotten engaged. It had been Easter and... The prior week, he was wanting to visit all the restaurants he loves here. And so we definitely, like I said, I've gotten a little carried away with pizza and ice cream and some of his favorites. I can't blame him, but off the rails. And I definitely needed a reset. Now, do you feel, what would you do different?
SPEAKER_01:What would I do different?
SPEAKER_00:Next time.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, I probably, that, that one hard bike ride, I would have dialed that back a little bit. And like I said, stayed in that zone one, zone two. Um,
SPEAKER_00:and we did the weights that Wednesday really just to move some stuff around and it was tough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. The next day though, I felt much better in the weight.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, cause you went a day I didn't. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then, but the, the day we did go was the day after I did the hard bike ride. And I think I was still recovering from that. And I felt a little bit sluggish. So
SPEAKER_00:you did a mountain bike ride, but you also did a road bike ride.
SPEAKER_01:I did the road bike ride day one. Oh, that's right. And that was just an easy pedal in the park. And I tried to just keep a high cadence and not push hard. And my heart rate was, you know. I think average of 128 maybe. Didn't get over 140. That's zone one and zone two. I stayed in zone one probably mostly on that ride. And everyone's heart rate zones are different. When I say zone one and zone two, you have to actually... do some actual tests to figure out what your zones are. Um, if you're doing zone training.
SPEAKER_00:And what are the best ways to do that?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I actually have a power meter, um, and I've taken an FTP test, which is functional threshold power. And, um, It's a measurement of how long you can or what is the maximum amount of watts you can maintain for an hour. And then from that, it breaks it up into actually seven different zones. And then usually your heart rate zones will correlate very similar with that. And if you don't use power and you just use heart rate, you have to figure out what your maximum heart rate is and then go from there. And then it's just like a percentage of your maximum. So zone one would be like 60 to 70%. Zone two is going to be 70 to... 78%. Zone 3 is going to be 80% to 86%. And then up as you go. And then if you don't use power or heart rate, you can just do a thing called perceived effort. So is it easy, moderate, hard extremely hard or uh you know and then those usually break down into like four zones instead of the heart rate zones are generally like five and then the power zones uh are generally seven
SPEAKER_00:so then you might look in perceived effort think about can i easily talk
SPEAKER_01:yeah and then
SPEAKER_00:And you want to stay where? Well,
SPEAKER_01:you want to stay if you are if you're fasting or if you're interested in just burning fat during your exercise, you want to stay in the easy to moderate.
SPEAKER_00:So you can carry a conversation. Yes. And
SPEAKER_01:now moderate might be conversation is a little bit harder to maintain, whereas the easy it's going to be easy to talk. And then hard is you could probably still talk, but it is harder to speak. Maybe you have to, like, catch your breath before you start a sentence. And then when you're in the very hard stage, you're not talking at all.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then, okay, so you said you might not take that hard bike ride. What else? I would like if we, when we do it again, I think it would be cool to, what's the scale that kind of gives you an idea of body fat, you know, get on some sort of scale that would give me more specific measurements about body fat percentage, how much water maybe I'm holding.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I have a body fat percentage scale. It's out in the garage. electroimpedance. Yeah. Now it doesn't tell you how hydrated you are and that can definitely affect an electroimpedance scale. Now they do have that. I don't know what it's called. The biometric scale at JCC.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. The embodied scan. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. That gives you lots of, it's supposed to give you like bone density and, um,
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think it even measures like which leg has more muscle.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So, I mean, that would be a cool thing to do before the next one and after. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Cause you could see actually probably how much fat you are losing compared to how much muscle you're losing. And no matter what, anytime you lose weight, you are losing both. You are losing fat and muscle. There's no way around it. It's, it's, uh, It's just the way your body works. Now, the goal is to always lose more muscle than fat. And that's the big problem with the Ozempic is people are taking this drug that's helping them lose tremendous amount of weight, but it's not always the healthiest thing to do because the general rule of thumb is when you're losing weight, you want to lose weight. one pound of muscle to three pounds of fat. That is a healthy number.
SPEAKER_00:And that's a week or?
SPEAKER_01:Well, however fast you're losing it. And yeah, generally they say three to five pounds per week is a healthy range to lose weight. And that's on a... if you're actually on a diet and exercising. That's not fasting. But the Ozempic, these people are losing two to two, two pounds of muscle to two pounds of fat, and sometimes even the opposite way where they're losing almost up to three pounds of muscle and one pound fat, which can be very problematic. But if you are needing to lose 50 pounds or more, it can be a good short-term alternative to help you get that initial weight loss under control and then getting on a healthy diet and a healthy exercise plan and off of the drug. But
SPEAKER_00:And I do think, you know, I have a client who did the Wagovi. She took Wagovi and had some side effects, hair loss, nausea, constipation, that lack of the gastroparesis. Her stomach wasn't emptying as fast as it should. It
SPEAKER_01:hurts your bone density.
SPEAKER_00:And I do think it's... important to maintain it's not like take a pill without any lifestyle changes
SPEAKER_01:no no and unfortunately that's what a lot of people are looking for look diet and exercise is the most important thing to being a healthy person and diet is arguably the most important thing you are what you eat you are what you eat there's It's such a true statement. A lot of times, people don't look at food as fuel, but that's exactly what it is. You are fueling your body. Look, you're constantly shedding skin your top layer of skin is dying off and you're building new skin so i think pretty much everyone knows that well that's not the only thing that's dying off and you're replacing that happens with your bones that happens with your organs your fingernails grow you cut them off and they grow back what do you think is making them grow you know it's the food that you eat you're fueling yourself you're rebuilding yourself you're using energy to to move through the world and you're getting that from the food that you eat
SPEAKER_00:yeah i'd like to uh tell my kids sometimes you can't put sand in a gas tank and expect your car to go you know so it's funny that i think people can even consider that their food choices are impacting their day-to-day life. If you're tired, I mean, that's like the first place I would look is, what am I eating? Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:and like my niece is having some issues with how she's feeling, and her mom asked her, well, what are you eating? Which is a great question, but she didn't want to hear that. Did she?
SPEAKER_00:No, because that means you have to evaluate. Like, what am I eating?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And our food...
SPEAKER_01:It is the best place to start. If you're not feeling well, that is the number one place to start. Like, okay, what are you actually fueling your body with? I mean, I know this... You know, the... When you're eating a bunch of garbage consistently, you don't notice that.
SPEAKER_00:That you feel just okay so far and you're just barely moving around.
SPEAKER_01:It's not until you take it, you eliminate it and start eating healthy. And then you don't even notice that you're, you are feeling better. It's when you go back and eat that junk and you go, Oh, this makes me feel like shit. then you go oh well i was probably feeling that way before i just was used to it yeah it's like drinking alcohol you know the person that drinks alcohol two or three times a week doesn't really think about how it makes them feel uh but like you haven't had alcohol in what over two years I'm sure if you had a drink or two or if you had three, you would wake up with the worst hangover. Oh,
SPEAKER_00:yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it would be awful.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I'd have the ruminating anxiety in the middle of the night. There's just too many things that I don't plan to invite back into my life with alcohol.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But. All right. So the bike ride, anything else? I would add magnesium.
SPEAKER_01:I would probably add a little more magnesium to try to clear the gut out a little bit more. Day... I think it was day three, I didn't have a bowel movement.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think neither of us did on day three.
SPEAKER_01:And then day four, I did. And then it really wasn't until... Day five.
SPEAKER_00:Friday morning.
SPEAKER_01:That I can tell that the last bit of whatever was in me was actually starting to come out. And I wish that stuff would have already started to come out before I started eating again.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's why. Yeah, no magnesium. I mean, but, you know, pretty much taking magnesium to help you with that. And that's how I prep for my colonoscopy. So that's like that. Liquid magnesium at the end of the night, I think I would have included.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. What else? I don't know. It's always good having a partner doing it with you if you're going to try it. But we did that. We both had each other. So that was nice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And it's like when one is hungry, the other's there saying, come on. You've got this. I've got this. We've got this.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's so much easier. If you don't have an accountability partner, those times that you want to give up, you probably would. You were talking about it on, I don't know, the end of day two. I'm hungry. And I was like, I told you you were going to be the first one.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, because we were kind of making a bet. Monday, who's going to be the first one to start asking for dinner? And it actually ended up being me.
SPEAKER_01:But then... the last couple of days, I was ready just to throw in the towel. I was like, let's just eat.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, is it dinner yet?
SPEAKER_01:Can we just eat?
SPEAKER_00:Can we eat those steaks you bought? It's like 10 o'clock that night.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like we got like barely any time left.
SPEAKER_02:I know.
SPEAKER_00:And we filled it. We did watch a good show. Yeah. We did our puzzle. Yeah. We took some extra walks with the dog.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:We gave some back rubs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was nice.
SPEAKER_00:What else?
SPEAKER_01:We hung out with your dad. We hung out with Maddie.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah. Yeah,
SPEAKER_01:yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Felt like we did something else. We did sit in a sauna one day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Just keeping your time occupied instead of... I think that's what most people eat in the evening is out of boredom. You know? They... They don't have, they're just sitting in front of the TV, vegging out. And what other, what better time than to have a snack, you know?
SPEAKER_00:I also think whether partnered or not, and whether you have an accountability partner or not, eliminating most of the things, if not all the things that could tempt you, right? Especially
SPEAKER_01:having an empty refrigerator is
SPEAKER_00:going to be helpful because that was something we did.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Any of those, you know, and thinking about maybe while you're there, a
SPEAKER_01:general rule of thumb for food in general is like, if
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, if it's not here, I'm not eating it.
SPEAKER_01:Don't buy it. Just don't. If you're trying to, to eat healthy for a while or all the time, just don't buy the junk. And you don't, You're more than likely not going to just get up and go to the grocery store to buy a bag of chips because you want some chips. But if there's a bag of chips in the pantry, you're going to just easily walk in there and grab them. Right.
SPEAKER_00:And if you've got Uber Eats or DoorDash or grab them on your phone, I would just delete the app.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't even think about that stuff because
SPEAKER_00:we've never done it.
SPEAKER_01:Never in my life. And I never will.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I don't want to say never, but it's not something that's... I get it if you're... If you can't drive or, you know, you might be sick and you want to get some food or whatever. But generally, the stuff that's being delivered is garbage anyway. I wouldn't want to eat that stuff. So...
SPEAKER_00:And then we broke our fast that morning, which was, I had really bad body aches that night. My back was. I was starting
SPEAKER_01:to get some, some low back pain as well. I think that might've been some of that final digestion issues.
SPEAKER_00:I think so too.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah. Breaking the fast. I was excited about that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, my mouth started watering Wednesday when I thought, oh, I want a steak for breakfast on Friday. So
SPEAKER_01:we got a ribeye and a New York strip grass fed. We didn't have any ribeyes or strip steaks left from our cow. So we had to get some from Whole Foods. And we cooked those up. And the
SPEAKER_00:cast iron spillet.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, with some lots of butter and ghee and salt. And they were
SPEAKER_00:amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Some of the best steaks I've ever had.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it really does give you an appreciation for food.
SPEAKER_01:And it was nice, too, because some one of the things that I was missing was during the fast was the act of chewing. I wanted to chew something. Everything you're consuming is liquid. So you miss that chewing sensation. And then you even made a comment, I'm going to chew this so good. I'm going to chew it at least 20 times.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because first of all, it's better for your digestion. And then I just wanted to like savor every bite.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. But it was, it was really good. And
SPEAKER_00:we didn't even eat the entire thing. We had,
SPEAKER_01:I got full. I had, we split each one in half. So we each got half of the ribeye and half the strip steak. And then I only ate like half of each of that. So a quarter of each. So it was really like, It's probably like a half a pound of meat, maybe a little bit less. Uh, and then I saved the rest for lunch. Uh, I actually was probably a little bit, I probably ate a little bit less than that at, at, uh, at breakfast. Cause I had some, some at lunch and then I had a little bit leftover after that, uh, that I took to Oriental Cafe. But, uh, When you come off that fast, you think you're going to be just shoving all the food in, which is not a good idea because it can make you sick. You want to ease back into the eating. And
SPEAKER_00:you want to be thoughtful with your food choices. I knew that we don't do nuts. I mean, hardly ever. And that's mentioned in one of the books that I've read, maybe bringing in, you know, maybe a small piece of fruit, which we had a little bit of a clementine, like the smallest clementine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then the steak. So we started with protein, which we always do anyway with breakfast. We never start with carbs at breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Which if you want any other change, you know, like instant right away is... Dish your cereal and start with protein. Eggs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no oatmeal in the morning.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Try some eggs and even bacon.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, bacon. I mean, there's all kinds of... Sausage. There's sausages today, turkey and chicken, and cottage cheese. We don't eat that really that often, but that's heavy protein. And... full fat Greek yogurt. So there's options out there that are gonna offer more sustenance than cereal. And you're just instant blood sugar spike. And you're hungry not too long after, so.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the only probably good thing in your cereal is the milk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that's questionable.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:All right, do you have any final things you want to say about it? When are we doing it again? Not
SPEAKER_01:anytime soon. I
SPEAKER_00:mean, I definitely... You're funny. I felt so much less bloated. I still do. Oh,
SPEAKER_02:yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that feels nice. My digestion can already be a bit sluggish. And some of that is related to my scoliosis. They're finding more and more things that are connected. So it was nice to give my stomach... digestive system a break?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure. Six
SPEAKER_00:months out?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think the fasting is... I mean, even if you do I think maybe quarterly might be a good idea. I don't know if they extended one. I don't know if I would want to do that.
SPEAKER_00:The 100?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I think that's more of like maybe once or twice a year. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:This was a long one.
SPEAKER_01:Now doing like a...
SPEAKER_00:24 hour, 48 hour?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, 24 hour is quite easy.
SPEAKER_00:36?
SPEAKER_01:Doing like a 36 or 48 or even a 72 would be, you know... doing that twice a year or even quarterly. But the hundred hour one was, it was pretty difficult. I think that going a little bit longer, even as you add on the days, it becomes a little bit easier. And then every time when you get to the end, you're like,
SPEAKER_02:Gosh, I
SPEAKER_01:probably could have gone longer. I mean, there's people out there that you hear doing like, oh, I did a 30-day fast or I did a 40-day fast. I wouldn't want to try anything like that. I don't need to lose 20 or 30 pounds. And I don't see how if you... are doing a 30-day fast, you're not losing something like 20 pounds. Now, I could still lose a few more pounds on top of what I just lost, but I wouldn't want to lose another 10 pounds, maybe five. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe you might consider something like that if you... I've noticed with some illness, like, but to me, I wouldn't want to
SPEAKER_01:lose any more muscle either. Cause I did notice a little bit of,
SPEAKER_00:I mean, that's what I felt like I was losing, you know, notice that too. Just definitely some strength. It seemed like.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I was glad. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:There's no way around it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Get back to, I mean, I was glad to get back to eating and I, you know,
SPEAKER_01:it makes you respect and appreciate your food too. Um,
SPEAKER_00:And I'm really trying to put an emphasis on real food, whole foods versus anything in a box right now. I mean, I'm sure I'll have those treats or those snacks that creep in because they're easy, like a Larabar, like the RX bar for the protein. But right now I'm trying to just stick with real food. And I would say shop the perimeter, except for that I was at Costco the other day and eh, Costco
SPEAKER_01:isn't really a grocery
SPEAKER_00:store. There's a bunch of chips on the perimeter. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:They do have some garbage on the perimeter. But generally, in a grocery store setting, the perimeter
SPEAKER_00:is
SPEAKER_01:where you want to be. The eggs, the meat.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the produce.
SPEAKER_01:The produce. Yeah, the fruit. So that's... Yeah, anything that's in a package is, it's questionable. I mean-
SPEAKER_00:It's convenient, but it's definitely
SPEAKER_01:questionable. It's like if you go to Chick-fil-A and get a chicken sandwich, the amount of ingredients that are in the chicken, in the chicken sandwich, how many do you think there are?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I don't know. I would bet- I don't know, 36 at least. That's not that many. That's
SPEAKER_01:insane. But you would think it would be like two or three, like chicken, right? And salt.
SPEAKER_00:And flour, breading?
SPEAKER_01:No, like a grilled chicken
SPEAKER_00:sandwich.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not talking about what's in the bread, just the chicken. There are 13 ingredients in just the chicken.
SPEAKER_00:Well, when you read and you
SPEAKER_01:read
SPEAKER_00:about the rotisserie chicken at Costco.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're trying to eat stuff that has like three to five ingredients in it. And really... All
SPEAKER_00:words we can pronounce.
SPEAKER_01:All words you can pronounce. And really, like if you're eating a meat, it should just be meat and salt, right? You don't need a bunch of other stuff. It's really tastes the best that way to me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, me too. I know that, that, um, I think we really figured that out when we did carnivore strict for two weeks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, because when we started to add any sort of like a couple of times we went out, it felt like
SPEAKER_02:too much
SPEAKER_00:fireworks and my, it was just way too much overpowering and, and you lost the subtleties and the flavors and
SPEAKER_01:of the meat
SPEAKER_00:of the meat.
SPEAKER_01:Then you're like eating something else.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So people do think it's wild, you know, they want sauces and spices and, you know, and that can be nice sometimes, but I think if you just bring, break it down and bring it back to just salt and beef, the butter does make it better.
SPEAKER_01:Butter. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Then, I mean, that's all we use basically. That's the only thing we really use is salt.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:So,
SPEAKER_01:well,
SPEAKER_00:I'm really grateful that you did this with me.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm grateful you invited me along the journey.
SPEAKER_00:You're a good challenge partner. As
SPEAKER_01:you are. You made me hang in there at the end. I was ready to throw in the towel.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it reminded me of when you were running backwards at the, I was just, you know, I thought of that. You're like, come on. You're going to get this five miles. Let's beat your sister. I'm like, dude, I just want to finish. Just shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But we, I, I got fourth in my age group because of your cheerleading. So that was great.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And having that person to, you know, bring you along, help you out. Cause it's nice. It really is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that, uh, that can, you know, pull you through tough times in other situations in your life where you may need to lean on somebody for something and that you already know that they're going to be there for you in a tough situation because they were already there, you know. So that's nice to know. I don't know if you think about it like that way, but.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And then also, you know, you've got this cheerleader who is cheering you on because they think, you know, this is good for you to like. Yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then you'll feel good about yourself when you're finished. I definitely know like it felt like an accomplishment on Friday.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, when you tell people that you made it that far, they're like, wow, that's insane. Good job.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. What did you do? What did it look like? Yeah. And so we have tips. If you want that free guide, just send us a message or it will, the link will be in the show notes. And until next time, the next time, Joe's going to be on, he does have, what was your background? Human, oh shoot, I get mixed up every time. Health and human performance. And we're going to talk about just how to like, if you've kind of like found yourself a little more sedentary since COVID, how to get back out there and get started with some sort of, I don't know, fitness, exercise, yeah, movement.
SPEAKER_01:Any kind of movement. Movement is good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So that's our next conversation.
SPEAKER_01:All right. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Thanks for coming.
