Return to Your Heart: A Journey Back to You featuring Lynn Greene

In this episode, Lynn and I explore what it truly means to live from the heart rather than from fear, stress, or old conditioning.  We talk about the power of heart-centered living -- how it shifts the way we relate to ourselves, others, and the world around us. Lynn also shares details about her transformative five-week immersive program, designed to guide you step by step into living more fully and unapologetically from this heart space. 

Lynn Greene is a heart-centered guide, space holder, and wellness facilitator devoted to the path of healing, presence, and soulful remembering. Her work is rooted in the belief that true healing isn’t about fixing—it’s about returning. Returning to the deeper intelligence of the heart.  She holds  sacred containers that support transformation through spiritual insight, somatic practices, and trauma-informed care.  Retreats are a core part of her work—offering immersive, heart-led spaces to step away from the noise, reconnect with inner wisdom, and experience deep nourishment.  She is committed to truth, aliveness, and the quiet beauty of unfolding.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 1:19

Welcome back to today's episode of Unapologetic Living. I am Elizabeth Elliott. I'm your hostess. I'm excited to have Lynn Green with us today. She is a friend of mine. We've known each other, golly, for a really long time, like actually not super close. But I mean, our kids were little when we met. We were 20 years. Yeah,

SPEAKER_01: 1:40

20 years, because you were one of the very first people that I met when I moved to Louisville, which is like such a blast from the past. It was La Leche League was where we initially connected.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52

Yeah. And I mean, it is wild how that just happens and all of a sudden it's 20 years later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:58

And then our paths cross again, which is so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00: 2:00

Yeah. So Lynn is a friend, a longtime friend, and she is a wellness practitioner, which another one, just one more reason that we've connected and reconnected multiple times over the years. And then she's the owner of Oxybaric. Is that all? That's just the name, right? It's just Oxybaric. That's just the name. Correct. And where she has multiple healing modalities, one of them being the hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Right. and so anyway I know that you like me are constantly seeking and seeking and seeking and one of those things or elements you have been delving into a little bit deeper is the heart and you know knowing that so many people are operating from logic

SPEAKER_01: 2:56

It's huge, isn't it? Right. Our whole society is built on the mind, right? It's what we value. And so many of us are finding dissatisfaction, right, in our lives because of that predominance of focusing on the mind. And that's what I ended up figuring out was that people are seeking, right? They want a different way and they're not sure how to get there. And I created this program, Return to Your Heart, just for people that are like that, that they're like, what's going on in their life is not working, right? They're not quite sure how to calm down their mind, right? And let things be and let things emerge. And this, this is for them, right? So it really does focus a lot on getting clear on where your mind is running things and how you can return to your heart and the heart space is such a beautiful place. It's a allows flow, it allows creativity, observance, right, to really not judge immediately, right, to really be able to sit back and see what works for you and what doesn't.

SPEAKER_00: 4:11

Yeah, it's, I was about to ask you, like, what does that embody, right, when you are in connection with that heart, because it is a very different, I mean, like, to me, it almost sounds like you're connecting to intuition, but maybe it's slightly different or you could call it a God-like energy or Christ consciousness, whatever that is, creator light energy.

SPEAKER_01: 4:42

Absolutely. And the heart space, you know, they've been doing research on heart's intelligence, right? And each of us has our own divine guidance system within us. And that is located in our heart space, right? And that so many of us have shut it off for a good reason, right? Because the heart space all And that also is what we love the most in the world. Mind also helps us discern and helps us determine what is for us. Because if we were ooey gooey in the heart all the time, we'd be loving everyone. And then we'd be taken advantage of. And then, you know, all of the things, right, that can sometimes lead to heartbreak also. But there's some discernment, right, that the mind can help us with. Mind is amazing, but it's just we don't want to live there, right? We want to use it as a tool. Right. And we can't live in the heart all the time. either. So we need both. We need balance and balance comes from our deep presence, right? Where one doesn't hijack us because actually the heart can hijack people too, right? Where people are just like, oh, I just want that feeling all the time. And then they let everything else go. And then that can create issues also, right? Or discomfort in one's life.

SPEAKER_00: 6:28

Yeah. I think of the middle, middle path, the middle way. Yeah. Right. With, with with all the things.

SPEAKER_01: 6:36

Having access to everything, right? And in the lineage that I work within, right, that we refer to that as presence. So if we can stay in presence, then we can access our mind, we can access our heart, we can access spirit, which is all possibilities. And then we also have access to all of the information that comes in through our body. And that is a lot of information, right? And a lot of telling, right? That gut feeling, the sensations, the There's tons in the body also.

SPEAKER_00: 7:09

So just in my opinion, I feel like this is almost trained out of

SPEAKER_01: 7:20

us. I think, I think that there, yes, there's, it's trained out of us. And then also there's an avoidance, right? Like, so when we get hurt from it, from having, you know, our hearts broken because something doesn't work out for us, instead of saying that's divine guidance, right? And that wasn't meant for us. But what did we love about that, right? Harvest what it was, right? We oftentimes just shut our hearts down and the shutting of our hearts down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 8:19

Right. Oh, gosh. I just totally had a brain fart for real. Because I know what you're talking about is this heart space. And I know that people will shut down. They will create sort of this armor. And... around themselves unknowingly, almost, right? It's kind of subconscious. Absolutely. They also could be very conscious. You know, it's the breakup. I'm never dating again. Screw whatever. Exactly,

SPEAKER_01: 9:03

because if I don't go there again, then it's never going to happen, right? Which is a complete facade.

SPEAKER_00: 9:08

Yeah, it is. And so I think it's important to try to maintain that openness. But, you know, years and years layers and layers are what I think for me like even in my work it's like is the goal is to peel them away right like an onion so that we can get and access that space again

SPEAKER_01: 9:33

exactly and one of the things that the the reason that I developed this program is I saw that right like that the people did want to peel that and open that but what what needs to happen or at least what I've seen work really well is to be really intentional about it, right? So with this program, you're being very intentional, you're creating a ritual, you have the help of a supplement that helps open your heart, right, so that you can see how it feels to be more open to being in the heart space. And then you'd gather once a week with a bunch of other people that are doing the same thing, right? So it's a container, that there's all those filaments, all of that that beautiful energy in that container to hold you, right? As you're walking into this more vulnerable space, right? Because years and years you have armored up, right? And this allows you to start to open in a safe and subtle way.

SPEAKER_00: 10:35

So I know we were talking before we started recording. It almost sounds as if this is... Feminine in nature,

SPEAKER_01: 10:48

right?

SPEAKER_00: 10:50

Because you're surrendering to... The heart, whereas the mind wants to control. But then in this program that you've created, right, you've also created this nice masculine container to hold space for all of this vulnerability.

SPEAKER_01: 11:23

Mm-hmm. They have that feeling every single day and the opening still happens. And then there are people that dive all the way in, do all of the lessons, have intricate rituals, right? And they have a different experience and they have a different opening. So it's wonderful to sort of see how they do it.

SPEAKER_00: 12:12

So now when you say lessons, are these journal prompts? Are these physical activities like sitting in mindfulness or meditative walks? A

SPEAKER_01: 12:23

little bit of all. All of that. So some of them are are totally in mind, right? Because we, we do use our minds to access different parts, right? Yeah, educational, but then there are meditations, there's prompts there. Exactly. There's all of those things. And I have this whole program housed on the mighty app, which I like to describe it as a private Facebook group, right? So that you can chime in, you can talk to your other participants, you can reflect on the exercises. All the Zoom links are housed there. I've had some people say, well, I really prefer this format to Facebook because it's a community of seekers, right? Everybody that's on there wants to do the same thing, right? Have more grace and ease in their life. And who knows who their teacher is going to be within that community, right? It might not be me. I'm holding space for people to have their own awarenesses. I just happen to have the masculine Right. Like you were talking about being able to create the structure. Right. And I do hold the energy component of it also. So and that's one of the parts of being with people for five weeks during this. I hold the energy. Right. And I hold that energetic container to help people. have a deeper awareness of what the heart space feels like, right? Because if I'm helping hold it, then they also have a different level of safety to be able to fall into it. They're not doing that alone, right? Most of our trauma comes from not being able to be seen or witnessed in whatever our felt sense and our emotions are with that sensation.

UNKNOWN: 14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:07

Yeah. What I, my brain fart was this, you know, when you think about, and I deeply believe that our organs or, you know, general spaces in the body are connected to the disease in our body. And so when I think about heart disease.

UNKNOWN: 14:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:32

And how, like, how many of us who have, you know, loved ones, you know, people we know currently with heart disease. Yeah. How much of that is connected and I strongly believe it's connected to to maybe the inability or fear of living from that heart space and in and in not right going or living out of alignment with what their heart truly wants and what logic and their mind and society and communities and family members have told them in this is the way it's supposed to be right these right bullshit rules. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 17:35

believe that we have an epidemic of not grieving. And when I say that, I say, I mean that really, that we haven't harvested what we loved from our heartbreak. So whenever I'm in a grieving process, I, and this could be that I, that there was something silly that I didn't receive, right? Like that, that I, that I wanted, right? is that I really work on harvesting what the heart connection was to whatever it is that has transpired, right? Like it could be a loss of a contract at work, right? That really broke my heart or made me sad. I really connect with what it was about that contract, right? That lit me up, that made me happy, right? So instead of trying to protect myself from that not happening again, I focus on what it was that I love so much so that I can bring more of that into my life.

SPEAKER_00: 18:46

Yeah, that I love. I remember in regards to relationships, I think I've read something very similar. You know, you find yourself in a relationship, you find yourself attracted to someone else while you're in the relationship, right? Right. And I think it was, I think it's the Hendrix, Getting the Love You Want. And then, or it was another book I read called Conscious Loving. This was like, I was like 21. And it's not necessarily that person, right? But it's what is it about?

SPEAKER_01: 19:49

I lost a friend last year. And the only way that I really was able to get through it was to harvest all of the joy and all of the beauty that she brought to my life over the years. And we had just reconnected before her passing. And it was wild how I was able to really bring her into me. It was a different integration Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But she's not here. Right. But she is. But she

SPEAKER_00: 20:54

is now. She is, right? I know. She is with me, right? Yeah. It reminds me of like when Tammy passed away and what she brought into my life, right? That was in 2017. But it is, it's very, and I feel like she's here. It was wild, Lynn, because it was the day she took her life. And I... had randomly was in the drawer and found her, the blip from her celebration of life. I was like, what the fuck? Not, I mean, literally like, what the fuck? You know, like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I hadn't forgotten, but that is what reminds me, oh, it's the day that she took her life. But it was so, and then I was randomly talking about this tattoo that I got and remembrance of her and it was just like I she's with me so often um And even more recently, I reconnected with a hairdresser of mine who was doing my hair up like those last six months of her life. And this woman gave me a book. She gave me the first book was called The Afterlife of Billy Fingers. And this this guy in this book, it's a true story. His sister channeled him. He did take his own life. And, you know, he And she continues to channel him and she talks to him. So I'm seeing this hairdresser. Then she gives me another book called Witch. And Witch is about, this was just after Tammy had passed, Witch is about a woman who was channeling her grandmother and channeled all this intuitive knowledge on holistic remedies for women. And so I started thinking, I wonder if Tammy will come to me in my dreams because both these individuals were having, okay, this is just actually kind of weird. And Tammy didn't come to me in my dreams, but listen to this. The day after this woman gave me the book, which I picked up Tammy's best friend who lives right down the street from you randomly in an Uber. And it was like seven o'clock. I just dropped Noah off at Ballard and I had to take this guy to the airport. And he goes, oh my gosh, this is so wild. I have been up since four because I had a dream about Tammy and we were sitting down for coffee and she told me that this, um, she made a mistake and, and she, because she was really struggling with this at this time, she was asking a lot of people, if I do this, what's going to take place in the afterworld? Like this had been on her mind for a minute. And then the next day I saw her ex-husband and he too, I picked him up from bourbon and beyond literally the next freaking day. Now I'm jumping ahead. So, and so he also had a dream and he shared his dream with me so I didn't get dreams okay let me tell you something last on August 14th this gal came to my sound bath okay the hairdresser

SPEAKER_01: 24:06

and

SPEAKER_00: 24:08

then she came to me for a session and I was telling her that whole story about how she'd given me these books and was kind of along me on that along you know walking alongside me on that journey and I had a dream about Tammy two days later. it took eight years

SPEAKER_01: 24:30

and it does though right yeah and you know and I love that you're bringing this up too because that heart space right is where those synchronicities happen

SPEAKER_00: 24:43

yes

SPEAKER_01: 24:44

and the more that we are in our heart space it opens us to all of that divine information that comes through these crazy little synchronous Right. Or magic or freak incidents. Right. They're not. I agree. There are divine, there are divine guidance. Right. Yeah. But we're so up here that we can't even sink into what's what all of the magic that is here for us in this existence.

SPEAKER_00: 25:15

Yeah. So then, okay. So you're the program that you've built. It's a five week program and you help people reconnect with and return to their heart space. Correct.

SPEAKER_01: 25:28

And so it's really four weeks of modules, but five meetings. So we actually meet for five sessions just to go over to the software, to get started, all of that good stuff. But the first week is really learning to discern between our mind and our heart. The second is bringing our heart to ourselves, right? So that's our internal dialogue. So where can we be with a gentler voice within ourselves right because some of us have such an inner critic that it can be a bit overwhelming and the third is bringing um the heart to others right so that we can really see others um not through our lens but really how they are which is really that is such a fun week and then uh the fourth one is bringing heart to relationships so it's it's a really full gamut of uh for a month, right? Really.

SPEAKER_00: 29:28

Yeah. And so, okay. So you meet in person and then you also once a week. Okay. And then, and typically how many, you know, how many people, individuals do you bring together is the goal. And, and is there a cap? Because I feel like, and this is just me, like too many becomes too, less safe. That's me.

SPEAKER_01: 29:57

No, no, no, absolutely. And I love that you bring that up. So it's 10 people. And we actually that's part of that very first week is we set the container. And so we create the code for each group and each group is going to be different. Of course, I've got baseline container setting rules, but then also everyone in the group gets to put things in that will help them find their safety. Because you can't drop into your heart with the safety right right and so and that's a whole process within the group also right it is to what helps you find be find safety and that can be a whole exploration right for you for each participant right right yeah

SPEAKER_00: 30:43

yeah and it seems like that even um could potentially be a process

SPEAKER_01: 30:49

exactly and that that's also you know where i offer individual support to all of the participants because this will bring things up right and even the discussions may bring charged energy up and I'm there to hold space for that also right and to help people have processes and find their safety and ask for what they need because that's all part of living from the heart space right because we can let the mind control or we can use the mind to set the boundaries and So that we can stay in our heart space and let others know what it is we need, right? And they may or may not be able to meet that. And then we can make decisions from there.

SPEAKER_00: 31:36

Right. And then do you find that you... I mean, I'm hoping that there's both men and women there. But I know that it tends to be that women seem to be the first seekers. And then they usually, you know, bring that home or they're the first one to find the wellness tool. And then they drag everybody in, you know, come on, we're going on this ride and this journey. And then do you see, have you had couples come in together to do this work? Or do you find that it really is more valuable even for just one of the two if they're partnered to come in and begin. I mean, I definitely think as an individual in a partnership, it's important for us to do our own. Absolutely. I think I would, you know, go on our own healing journey as individuals, but right then you're bringing this

SPEAKER_01: 32:33

together. a lot about this right because you have an I and a you in a relationship right and then it becomes a we right but they have to be clearly defined right yes before you have the relationship or else it just becomes all mushed up and so so I would I would definitely suggest separately you know I wouldn't turn people away if they wanted to do it together but I ideally it would be for you and then you would take it to your relationship.

SPEAKER_00: 33:30

Yeah. I mean, that's kind of intuitively what I was feeling in my body because you're given, yeah, to, again, because that, yes, that kind of blend and mesh, I don't want to say in measure, that's a bad, but you know, you

SPEAKER_01: 33:44

do, you

SPEAKER_00: 33:45

might.

SPEAKER_01: 33:47

Right. I mean, unintentionally or intentionally, right. Trauma-based there's, there's a million different ways that, that, that happens. Right. But when, when you can really be clear about the I and the you, it makes such a difference in the relationship because then you can really come together and co-creation

SPEAKER_00: 34:07

because

SPEAKER_01: 34:08

the relationship is always a co-creation and it just can't take over the I and the you. At least that's my opinion on a relationship. Everybody can have their own way. So that, that's the heart space, right? Everybody can do their own thing.

SPEAKER_00: 34:22

Yeah. A stronger we. Yeah. When you come together as a solid I and you yep Yeah. Now I know you mentioned, did you say there is something that helps with the kind of the heart opening that?

SPEAKER_01: 34:40

Yes. So this is a plant based opening. And so the plant that we use, it's an alkaloid actually from the plant Kana. And it's a beautiful, gentle returning to the heart. So it is definitely felt, you will feel the effect on your body. And that's part of the reason that when we all take that supplement together the first evening, and so everyone, I've never had anyone not feel it. So, but I also do it as a group, so that everyone can really drop into the sensation. And then they know what it feels like, right? Because sometimes we can be so much in our mind, we We don't have felt senses even, right? Yeah. And that's a real thing. And so that's part of the program also.

SPEAKER_00: 35:37

And so is that each in-person gathering?

SPEAKER_01: 35:42

Five days a week, people will be taking those and then they take the weekends off and then they start again during the week. And it's a beautiful, you know, one of the things about opening the heart like that is that you're still walking through your day-to-day life. So you get to see what what it's like to bring more heart into all of the different things that you're doing in your life. And sometimes that can mean maybe you're feeling a little bit more or maybe everything's okay a little bit more. Everyone's a little bit different. I've had quite a few people say, I'm so much more relaxed. I'm not on edge thinking that something's going to happen. Everything's just okay. Yeah. A clarity of sorts.

SPEAKER_00: 36:30

And so this, and this is when you say five days a week, I know you mentioned taking this supplement the first time together that evening, would it be something that's integrated in the mornings?

SPEAKER_01: 36:44

So each person's a little different and I encourage, you know, and I help people with that also. There are some people that this supplement supplement can be stimulating and then there are some people that it can be deeply relaxing so it depends on your system but we do take it together that first night and then we determine whether it would be best for morning or evening like I had one lady that took it at night and it she had really amazing dreams that were very intense. And so we ended up deciding that she was going to have a morning ritual, so that she would have it in her system during the day. And then there are other people that were like, I have never had an evening so relaxing in my life. I'm taking it every single night. Right?

SPEAKER_00: 37:28

Now, is this something that would be would continue use after the five weeks if desired?

SPEAKER_01: 37:36

Absolutely. And what I encourage people is if If it's something that resonated and that they really enjoyed to have it available for an as needed, right? Because you can either continue on the micro dosing or you can use it as needed. And I have had many people when they're heading to family functions that they will have one of the supplements just so that they can be more at peace with family being family, right? The family is going to have their opinions. The family is going to have all of the things. it's our reaction to it that brings us discomfort. So if we can calm that and just let them be them. Right. Yeah. How much more enjoyable is that? So yes, yes. I highly encourage that if, if, if people want that. And so it was available.

SPEAKER_00: 38:28

And, and, and so Kana it's spelled K A N A because this is a N N A N N A. Okay. Because I just heard about it yesterday. And, and, And you wouldn't, would you equate, I mean, it's being a plant medicine. Would it be similar to cacao? Yes, it is

SPEAKER_01: 38:49

similar to cacao. It's

SPEAKER_00: 38:52

not something that's going to inhibit your ability to drive. You can go on. Not at all. Okay. Not at all. Not at all.

SPEAKER_01: 38:58

But you will feel a beautiful opening just like cacao, but it doesn't take quite as long. Okay. With the supplement. So you can, and that's part of the reason that beginning night I'm with everyone. Yeah. Right. So and we're in a quiet space. We do a guided meditation to just really be able to help people come out of their minds and into their hearts and bodies. That sounds lovely. It is so lovely. And then once you have that pattern, right, or that template of what it feels like, then you can do that every day if you choose, right? I always tell people, I'm like, don't take it with your smoothie in the morning as you're heading out the door, right? Take three minutes to light some incense to take your supplement and settle in or whatever the ritual is, right? And I can help people create rituals also because some people aren't used to doing that for themselves yet.

SPEAKER_00: 39:59

Yeah, I mean, when it comes to any plant medicine, I believe that it should be, there should be, for me, an intention, something behind it, like what's the goal? Allow me to tap into that heart space or connect with God, you know, use me as your vessel and, you know, Bring

SPEAKER_01: 40:23

me the wisdom I need, right? That became really evident to me. I did an immersive with the plant rose and rose tea, rose food, rose, I mean, it was rose everything. It was one of the most intense experiences I've ever had. And it really brought my awareness to every plant has vibrations for us. If we just focus on a particular plant, It's here on this planet for us, right? And it's affected by how it's grown. And I mean, we know all of these things, right? But sometimes we don't think about it.

SPEAKER_00: 41:02

And I think even by, I know that, I think vibrational or frequency medicine is the wave of the future. And it's still so, it's such a new concept and idea, I think, for many.

SPEAKER_01: 41:22

It completely is, right? And I think that the more that we're able to slow down and be with our bodies and let everything be allowed, right? We can start to tune into those things. And it's interesting when people start to drop into their hearts, they do have more access to their bodies many times depending on their makeup, right? Yes. And I'm super excited also beginning of 2026 I will be launching return to your body also so which is going to be an amazing really somatic you know diving in right to where our blocks are within our bodies also but the heart is the gateway for me because the heart is where we allow everything to be without judgment

SPEAKER_00: 42:17

right yeah yeah i um you know in other previous conversations you know that return to the body so many people are disconnected from their body and just as a stretch therapist and even asking that how does that They don't even know about how their body feels when I'm maybe doing something. And that's, I mean, like when I say trained out of this, to me, okay, as soon as somebody is in a classroom and is being told they have to wait to go to the bathroom, we are literally telling someone to shut down everything. their connection to their body

SPEAKER_01: 43:04

right right to what they need and want and and i love and and it's a requirement for the body class that people take the heart class because i don't want to take someone into their body before they're able to not judge not being in their body right because if they're judging it then there's more shame and guilt and pain of going into the Yeah. In whatever form, right? We live in a society that, you know, shape matters. And again, the elementary school, right? The bullying, the way that we're, you know, put into groups and forced, there's so much there. We could do like 10 more podcasts.

SPEAKER_00: 44:11

Yeah. And have you heard of, I just have been recently listening to, I think his name is Dave. David Guyam, he's a rabbi and he teaches the Kabbalah and the wisdom of the Kabbalah. But, you know, it sounds so similar. Some of what you're sharing sounds very similar, just different words. And for me, why I connect with him is that he's like, it doesn't matter what what religion you're following, right? Who your teacher is, whether it's Jesus or Muhammad or I forget the other one he mentions. He mentions three, Buddha, I don't know. But that you have to get really essentially in place with what he calls the light. And I haven't listened to very many episodes, but one of them was... about judgment. And I just, you know, it's so easy to go into that space of judgment. And as soon as you're there, you're not in the heart. He doesn't say that, but he's like, you know, you're in the dark. You're not in the light. You know, and so when you're judging, whether it's yourself or whether it's others. And he has this really great story that he uses in this one particular episode, which really resonated for me. It was great. I'll just leave it at that. But it was about, you know, his son, his eight-year-old making a generalized statement about something being unfair. Yeah. And because that's a judgment, right? It's a, and I don't know, I wouldn't be even able to articulate exactly what he said in the message I got, but I was like, oh my gosh, you know, and you can go into this heart space and trust that God has your back or that your heart is leading you, even if it isn't the outcome that you hope. Somewhere for me, like it's all part of our soul's journey and whatever that is, is exactly what my heart is leading me to. soul needs, my heart needs for its growth.

SPEAKER_01: 46:36

Absolutely. I can remember one of my teachers telling a story and I remember it. I mean, it's just in the forefront all the time. He was on Zoom and he's like, ha ha ha. He's like, a tree branch just crushed my car. And I was like, I was just thinking about that. And I was like, and he's just like, that's so, so Oh, I wonder what's going to happen now. You know, and I was it was so interesting to me, right? Like there were two different pathways that could happen in that moment. Oh, I'm going on an adventure. Right. It's not what I expected. It's not what I wanted, but I'm going on an adventure or woe is me that I couldn't get in my car and drive away. And, and right. Like the, the, the marching orders, right. That the mind has us, you know, but instead it was open to who knows what, right. Like to all the possibilities, like, who is he going to meet? Who is he going to like, and that is in my mind all the time. all the time, right? Like what adventure am I gonna

SPEAKER_00: 47:49

be on now? Yeah, and I mean, that's a great question to, I mean, to be asking what, because oftentimes when you talk to individuals and they share their story, it was like, if it wasn't for that, this wouldn't have happened, right? I mean, when Noah decided to move from South Carolina to New Mexico, I was like, oh, my God, I don't that's so far, at least in Myrtle Beach. I could drive there in a day. Right. So I call this psychic up. I'm like, you know, Crystal, tell me, oh, this is going to be great. He's going to meet a girl out there. He's going to move back to Louisville. And I was like, OK, well, he did those things. I was like, I'm calling Crystal forever. You know, he did. But had he not decided to make this what I thought was a very impulsive decision. Right? He wouldn't have met his wife. And she also happened to randomly transfer Junior year. And when they look back, like they did have the opportunity to have possibly met because she was in the same sports conference that he was when he was at Myrtle Beach. They were literally for a moment there at the same time, you know, while she was playing a softball game. Do you know what I mean? And but they didn't meet until he decided to make this crazy, impulsive decision to drive across the country and move.

SPEAKER_01: 49:19

And he was following his heart. Yes. Right? And then all of the synchronicities fell into place, right? And some of those are the most terrifying, right? Because it's literally letting go of one thing and jumping. And so there's like surrender and flow and all of these unbelievable things that we're conditioned out of. Yeah, right. what we should be doing. Right.

SPEAKER_00: 49:55

Yeah. Right. And so, and so again, that's part of that, just like deconditioning ourselves.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:03

Completely. And that, again, just to circle back to the return to your heart, that's why I encourage people to start with the group because you're in training yourself to being in that space over a period of time because we don't just break our patterns, right? Sometimes we do, but oftentimes it takes training, right? It's a muscle. It's something that we have to learn how to do. It's

SPEAKER_00: 50:33

a muscle. knowing that you have a community of people who have the same vision of freeing themselves and returning to their heart, I think does.

SPEAKER_01: 50:41

Oh, it's support. Absolutely. Right. And that energetic container, it does hold things. Yeah. So, well, I, um, I'll be starting this group October 1st. And so, um, yes, it's coming up soon. So I will provide you with a link, Elizabeth, and then I would love if it's okay to read a passage from one of my favorite authors to sort of end our time together. Yeah, I think it's great. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. This quote is from Sarah Blondin, who is also a heart-centered meditator, but this one is just really beautiful. Take note, the greatest power lies in what you choose to call the tight, uncomfortable places. Choose instead to call these places where love is opening to a whole new level of beauty. Do not close. You are choosing growth over stagnation, love over pain. You are making an effort to align with what you most desire. No matter the outcome, whether you receive what you are looking for or not feel the warmth and sincerity of your actions you know you are trying to become more whole in heart and being let that in each moment be good enough Rest with your heart outside its cage, nerves open to the air and light and healing presence of life. Do not shut yourself or your heart back in, for this is the surest way to harden the soul, which was given to you to be soft. I love that. I know. I know. It's a perfect reminder for us all to start returning to our hearts, right? It's where we can live in peace and find new ways of being in the world that aren't rigid.

SPEAKER_00: 52:49

Yeah. And I think it just allows for, you know, one thing really fast. You just mentioned, you know, like that grieving. I think in today's world, so many of us are just taught not to feel you know I mean people are inundated with the antidepressants like you know I mean but that's just a part of the human experience and guess where that takes place right in

SPEAKER_01: 53:16

the heart

SPEAKER_00: 53:17

yeah so how can we hold space for each other yeah and to know that you know exactly so that maybe some of these you know medications aren't needed and uh

SPEAKER_01: 53:29

we can all be messy together

SPEAKER_00: 53:30

yeah because

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we

SPEAKER_00: 53:31

all are yeah we all are That's the beauty of life, right? Like the busyness. Yeah. I mean that broken open. Did you read that one? Woody? I think it's a, he says we're all just bozos on the bus, you know, and everybody's well, I'm fine. No, actually you're a bozo on the bus too. I know. I know. We don't have to hold that secret anymore. Let's stop faking

SPEAKER_01: 53:51

it and get real.

SPEAKER_00: 53:52

Right. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Lynn. Be sure to get me that link so that I can, and get that out into the show notes. Okay. And then share that. Thank

SPEAKER_01: 54:02

you. Thank you. Thank you. This has been so much fun. Have a great day, Elizabeth. You too.

SPEAKER_00: 54:07

Bye.